慧卿︰「簽約章係對學者唔禮貌。」 咁都算理由?Miss Emily LAU: “contract of students well manners.

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Miss Emily LAU: “contract of scholars well manners. “So all reason?

2017年特首候選人如何誕生,社會由確保泛民能入閘,談到由300萬選民皆有權提名的「公民提名」方案。學民思潮拋出優先考慮公民提名的約章,但民主黨、工黨拒簽。
支持公民提名的民主黨主席劉慧卿認為,真普選聯盟學者團剛提出三個方案,還未深入討論,學民便要泛民傾向支持「第四方案」,令泛民動彈不得,也對學者無禮。學民思潮發言人黎汶洛認為,約章要打破1,200位權貴的提名權,但約章源頭是對民主黨的不信任,擔心該黨再次背棄選民。
記者:呂浩然 姚國雄

■民主黨曾指特首候選人的選舉機制,最重要是確保泛民能入閘,公民提名並非最重要。
■民主黨曾指特首候選人的選舉機制,最重要是確保泛民能入閘,公民提名並非最重要。
記:《蘋果》記者
劉:民主黨主席劉慧卿

真普選聯盟7月公佈三個普選特首方案,方案一是提名委員會參照現時1,200人選舉委員會模式,再加入其餘民選區議員,令提委會人數增至1,500人。方案二是將全港分成20區,各區直選出20人(共400人)成為提委會委員。方案三是全港區議員及立法會議員組成約500人的提委會。門檻方面,只要獲十分之一提委會成員支持就可入閘;方案一及三更加入公民提名機制,但凡獲2%或以上選民支持(約7至8萬人)也可成為候選人。
記:你對學民思潮建議,由所有登記選民組成提名委員會的方案有何看法?
劉:我唔係好知佢點樣運作,佢呢個係三個(真普聯方案)裏面冇嘅,但係我哋亦都唔會排斥佢,大家咪攞埋一齊傾囉,如果大家有機會坐低,就聽一聽佢嗰個係點樣操作。如果照學者嘅第二個方案,就係畀大家選(提名委員)出嚟,都係選番400人,跟住攞到呢400人嘅百分之十就可以,呢個我就易明啲。

記:如何比較學民方案和「雙軌制」(即政黨提名和公民聯署提名並行)?
劉:我相信社會未有深入討論,我希望過程當中好多意見表達出嚟,令大家搵到一啲方法係市民好易明白亦都係可以操作嘅。你睇學者嘅第一個方案,係比較接近𠵱家嗰個選舉委員會,佢都講到明當佢有1,200人,然後加多幾百個區議員變咗大約1,500人,提名門檻就百分之十。如果唔係就攞公民提名,公民提名就係登記選民嘅百分之二,大約7萬個。
市民最大憂慮係提名委員會會俾北京操控,第日又唔知點樣以民主程序去推選啲人,佢可能就會篩選某啲人,令到有啲人冇得參選,可能嗰啲人係好有民望、好得到市民支持。無論用方案一、方案三去做,可能佢(北京)都有方法去操控,所以就要畀條生路(公民提名)佢。
記:有指雙軌制較有利於政黨,因此民主黨才力推,你如何回應?
劉:淨係整個提名委員會係全世界都冇,但係你畀政黨、議員去提名係有地方有喎,咁點解要排斥咗呢個方法呢?真係搞到我哋舉世無雙咁呀?我哋𠵱家講係選行政長官,我哋唔係淨係選一個人,我哋係要選一個人出嚟組成政府,所以如果你話有個大黨或者有個大嘅團體支持嗰啲候選人,大家一齊合作,呢個差不多係必要嘅㖭。
如果你話冇嘅,我係一個人自己出嚟,咁我相信你都幾難叫市民好嚴肅咁樣去對待你參選,因為選咗你出嚟,咁你點樣治港?你同邊個一齊去做?啲市民會問喎。如果你話個提名方法係畀啲有組織嘅,點解咁出奇?如果你嘅提名方法淨係畀啲散兵游勇,我相信市民都覺得「唔係啩?」
記:為甚麼民主黨不簽署學民的約章?如何看待學民的做法?
劉:我哋係尊重佢(學民)。就係因為個約章要佢哋(個方案)優先,學者提咗三個建議出嚟,我哋都未曾去討論,佢就冇端端整咗第四個建議叫你簽、約束你,話嗰個優先,原本嗰三個都未傾你就丟埋一邊,我唔覺得呢個係對啲學者好有禮貌,我都唔明點解會咁樣做法。
記:今次政改民主黨的底線是甚麼?會否再與中聯辦談判?若會,如何談判?
劉:如果唔係普及而平等,民主黨係唔會支持,但係咪冇公民提名就一定唔係普及而平等呢,我相信亦都唔係,咁多國家雖然有地方係有公民提名,但好多都冇,咁點解人哋又有普及而平等嘅選舉?
其實《基本法》都寫咗中央嘅角色,唔係話佢冇角色,一講就係干預香港事務,但係我唔覺得佢一開波就應該搞,所以應該特區政府去處理、去提出方案、去同市民傾,凝聚共識,希望搞得好掂嘅時候中央都唔使介入。所以最終係咪要同佢傾,咪睇吓民主黨同埋民主派大家點樣商議,而如果其他政黨都覺得基於乜嘢原因都好,係唔應該去嘅,咁我哋自己衝出嚟話去咪好怪囉。

2017 Chief Executive candidates how the birth , society is made to ensure that the pan-democrats can turnstiles , comes from 300 million voters are entitled to nominate a ” citizen nominated ” program . Xuemin thought nominated thrown priority citizen charters, but the Democratic Party , the Labour Party refused.
Chairman of the Democratic nomination to support citizen Emily believes that genuine universal suffrage Union Mission just made three scholars program , yet in-depth discussions , the people will have to learn to support the pan-democratic tendencies “fourth option” so that people could not move the pan , but also for scholars without ceremony. Xuemin thought spokesman Li Wenluo that Charter to break the 1,200 dignitaries nomination , but the Charter of the Democratic Party is the source of distrust , fear the party once again betrayed voters.
Reporter : Lv Haoran Yaoguo Xiong

■ Democratic Party candidate refers to the Chief Executive election mechanism , the most important is to ensure that the pan-democrats can turnstiles , the nomination is not the most important citizen .
■ Democratic Party candidate refers to the Chief Executive election mechanism , the most important is to ensure that the pan-democrats can turnstiles , the nomination is not the most important citizen .
Reporter: “Apple” reporter
Liu : Democratic Party chairman Emily

True Union in July announced three universal suffrage elections for the leadership program, which first reference to the current 1,200 Nomination Committee Election Committee , and then add the rest of the elected District Council members , so that the NC has increased to 1,500. Option II is the territory divided into 20 areas, each district elected out of 20 ( total 400 ) as mentioned committee members . Option III is Hong Kong’s Legislative Council and District Council members consisting of about 500 people to mention committee. Threshold , as long as members of the Board for tenth mention support can turnstiles ; program one and three more joined civic nomination mechanism , anything is 2% or more of the voters ( about 7-8 million ) can also become a candidate .
Reporter: Do you thought to learn China proposed by the nominating committee consisting of all registered voters of the program What do you think ?
Liu : Good to know I’m not a point-like operation Drainage , Drainage do faculties three ( true universal outreach program ) inside Nuisance generous , but the system will not even I Die also excluded sewers, buried together we pour Mi INCREDIBLE Hello, if you have opportunity to sit down , heard a drainage system Pulled spotting operation. If, as scholars generous second option on the Department give me we choose ( Nomination Committee ) come out and walk , they are all selected Fan 400 people, 400 people catch it INCREDIBLE to ten percent can be generous , I’ll do an easy to understand GOD .

Reporter: How to compare Xuemin programs and ” dual-track ” ( ie, joint nomination of party nominees and citizens in parallel ) ?
Liu : I believe not in-depth discussion, I hope the process of expression of opinion out and walk a lot , so that everyone out yourself a GOD method based public good are all easy to understand also can operate generous . You see the first scenario generous scholar , Department of closer 𠵱 home Pulled Electoral Commission , spoke out when the drainage canal there are 1,200 people , and hundreds of District Councillors Cadogan change Zo about 1,500 people on the nomination threshold percent ten . If you agree on the nomination of luo citizens , civic nomination on the Department of generous two percent of registered voters , about 70,000 .
The largest public concerns , the nomination committee will serve Beijing , clauses day and Do not know spotting to democratic procedures to elect GOD who screened a canal might GOD people so that there will have to stand for election Nuisance GOD people , who may Pulled GOD Department good and popularity , well supported by the public . Whether to use a program , the program three to do, may Drainage ( Beijing ) has methods to manipulate , so we’ll give her a way out ( citizens nominated ) canal .
Reporter: There are more conducive to political parties means two-track system , the Democratic Party was pushing , how do you respond ?
Liu : Department of the net system all over the world throughout the Nomination Committee Nuisance , but you give me a political party lines , members nominated by the Department to have a place to have Wai , Han Zo Why do you want to exclude a way to do that ? I got really unparalleled Han Mi ah ? I Die 𠵱 family stresses is selected from the Chief Executive, I agree Die net is selected from a man I Die department come out and walk to choose a person to form a government , so if you have a big party , or if there is a big generous community support Pulled GOD candidates we ask everyone to cooperate , it is almost a necessary generous㖭Department .
Generous if you said no , I was a person himself out and walk , Link I believe you have a few good serious difficulty telling the people to treat you like Link to the election, because the election Zo you come out and walk , How much do you spotting ruling ? You do it together with the side of a ? GOD will ask, Wai . If you give me words nominations methods GOD Department organized generous , Why Link surprising ? If you give me a generous Nominate GOD stragglers net system , I believe that people feel ” you agree Gua ? ”
Reporter: Why Democrats do not sign the Charter School China ? How do people learn the practice ?
Liu : I Die respect Drainage Department ( Xuemin ) . On the line because of a Charter to drainage Die ( a program ) priority , academics Zo three suggestions come out and walk , and I have never been to discuss Mi , Drainage Nuisance end to end on the fourth recommendation entire Zo call you sign, you are bound , then Pulled priority , none of the original Pulled three pour bury you throw aside, I Do not think it a good system for GOD scholars polite, I would not even like Link bright point solution approach.
Note : this constitutional reform what is the bottom line of the Democratic Party ? Will re- negotiate with the Liaison Office ? If so, how to negotiate ?
Liu : If you agree universal and equal suffrage , the Democratic Party will support the Department of Well , but the Department of Mi Nuisance citizens will certainly agree nominated by universal and equal it, I believe, not even the Department , the Department Ganduo country although there are local citizens of nomination, many are Nuisance , Link points Mi Jie-ren have generous universal and equal elections ?
In fact, ” Basic ” are written Zo generous central role of words Qu agree Nuisance role , a talk on the Department of interference in Hong Kong affairs , but the Department of I Do not think she should engage in an open wave , so it should be the Government to deal with, to put forward a proposal , go with the public dump , build consensus, I hope do not even make Haodian Guruji central intervention . So at the end of the microphone to the same drainage pour Mi, Air scare Democrats spotting all child democrats we negotiate , and if other parties feel are good reasons based on what- Ge , Department of Well should go generous , Han Li rushed own words I Die go Mi weird Hello .

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